tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3754268133771096222.post8578559970686518372..comments2022-11-20T02:27:53.833-08:00Comments on Ranting For A Revolution: Sex, lies and gender rolesLisahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12317112019095548924noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3754268133771096222.post-67542053002208207612008-12-06T06:25:00.000-08:002008-12-06T06:25:00.000-08:00very well said, Lisa.very well said, Lisa.BOOK_REVIEWER_EXTRAORDINAIREhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02903956428449091188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3754268133771096222.post-6383829267477863412008-10-29T20:22:00.000-07:002008-10-29T20:22:00.000-07:00Excellent post Lisa. I'm going to respond to it in...Excellent post Lisa. I'm going to respond to it in my own blog entry in Lesbiatopia.<BR/><BR/>--CindyBOOK_REVIEWER_EXTRAORDINAIREhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02903956428449091188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3754268133771096222.post-73574981278500209642007-09-14T22:25:00.000-07:002007-09-14T22:25:00.000-07:00Your Myspace link kept taking me back to the main ...Your Myspace link kept taking me back to the main Myspace page. Took me forever to get back here. heh.<BR/><BR/>But yeah, I think you make a good point. Context means EVERYTHING. I especially run into this when dealing with free speech issues as well. People can say or do similar things, but their motives can be completely different. WHY they act a certain way matters a lot. I know I've personally done some things that would sound ridiculous and "fratboyish" if I explained them but that certainly doesn't mean I'm that sort of person. I think the same applies in this case. As long as the motive makes sense, then I don't think the individual should be concerned how others perceive them.<BR/><BR/>I tend to believe that as a person, as long as you are self aware, you should act accordingly. Sometimes that is going to annoy people who have an agenda, but that isn't your problem. If they don't understand that "why" you do things is as important as "what" you do, then that is their problem and they're the no different than the generalizing pieces of shit they are complaining about.Dmoralizehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13164200814845161756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3754268133771096222.post-48502468980080544102007-09-14T06:21:00.000-07:002007-09-14T06:21:00.000-07:00Thanks for your insightful comment, Branden. I ag...Thanks for your insightful comment, Branden. I agree that calling something "degrading" - or labeling anything, for that matter - is all relative. I think this is the root of many problems within different social movements - there are those who believe supporters should follow a certain belief system and lifestyle, and if they don't, then they're not being true to the cause. <BR/><BR/>And people wonder why it's so difficult to unite a group, a movement, a country...<BR/><BR/>Levy's book pissed me off at some points because she seemed to be scolding us from the soapbox - and what a great way to discourage young women from learning more about feminism! I've experienced the "age gap" within the women's movement; some (not all) women are just not open to change or new ways of experiencing empowerment - and that's a damn shame. <BR/><BR/>That being said, I'm going to reference Jess Valenti again (because I fucking adore her): if women want to use their bodies to feel empowered, that's fantastic - providing they know WHY they are doing it. If it's coming from a personal place and this is how they really feel a sense of power, great. But, are they doing it because they know that's what men want to see and that's how they will get the attention of men? And really, how empowering is that?Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12317112019095548924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3754268133771096222.post-14417794601608456782007-09-13T18:54:00.000-07:002007-09-13T18:54:00.000-07:00Part of the problem with this type of discussion i...Part of the problem with this type of discussion is that treats each individual as some sort of spokesperson for an entire group. Especially in the case of women and discussing whether their sexuality or actions are degrading to women as a whole. It seems as though Levy is implying that women should act in a way she approves of because she feels their individual actions are degrading to the female gender. But it's a nonsense argument because it's only degrading by her subjective opinion. Feeling degraded is a personal thing, it is not an easily definable or empirical thing. If a woman personally feels good about the way she carries herself and the things she enjoys, then why should she alter that because some other random woman doesn't approve? If anything, women like Levy seem to define themselves and their worth by their gender which is separatist and self-defeating in it's own right. If she truly wants to be taken seriously then perhaps she should try defining herself as an individual and quit worrying about the inevitable generalizations that strangers are going to make about her.<BR/><BR/>If you have something to offer the world, then intelligent people will see that. I'm not going to deny that it is occasionally frustrating to be generalized as white man or by the music I enjoy, or whatever, but I certainly wouldn't expect every member of those groups to act a certain way as if they are a representative of that group. Instead, I continue to act in a way that I feel good about and when someone comes along and recognizes that, it tends to be someone else that is worth associating with. People worry to much about other people. Ultimately each person can choose to define who they are as an individual... and if some members of society don't see that, i'm not going to lose sleep over it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com